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Coolwind
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Italy
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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  01:10:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very glad to hear that the new portrait mode is appreciated.
In any case, Ibox won't disappear all of a sudden. Let's wait for some more advises.
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Berto
Pterodattilo

Italy
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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  10:00:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Paul, an idea just came to my mind, to avoid further discussion about this: why don't we implement a third mode besides Portrait and Landscape, with the map displayed on landscape mode but with the bar on one side?

This would solve a problem that portrait mode has: in the landables pages the fonts are so small I cannot read them easily.
When I tested Portrait mode I noticed this feature which may be appreciated by some (many landables in a single page), but may also make life difficult to others (i.e. people with glasses ... like me ...).
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bo.
Aquila imperiale

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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  10:36:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I agree with Bertos suggestion. I would not miss the IBOX mode, but infoboxes in a "side bar" has its virtues with wide screen devices. I guess the bottom bar buttons should follow the bar to the side of the screen.

In some environments, such as in paraglider, limited avaliable space may favour landscape orientation of the device. In such cases portrait orientation may not be an option.

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maxk
Pulcino

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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  10:47:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit maxk's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  Delete Reply
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Edited by - Coolwind on 10/03/2011 12:14:31
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Coolwind
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Italy
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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  12:29:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have another solution in mind for people that need extended map view in landscape mode.
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bo.
Aquila imperiale

402 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2011 :  12:50:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok. Could you elaborate on that a bit? Would the same information be available on the screen, without manually switching between pages?

By the way.. maybe we don't really need to moderate the forum quite as strictly.. as long as people are capable of civilised debate, maybe it will be ok after all.. I don't see too many threats out there...
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Coolwind
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Italy
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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  13:32:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Full screen mode with transparent bottom bar, and a special custom key to toggle values on it.
This is how it is going to work. If I move the bottom bar on the vertical side, which I am not going to do as this is how IBox is working, in landscape mode, then 80% of people will say that they have a limited view on the side.
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bo.
Aquila imperiale

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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  15:23:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Sounds a bit like what is already available? Transparent bottom bar and keys to toggle between the different bars?

Im not talking about a mandatory change of layout. The 80% who prefer good side view will of course keep the current landscape mode. I would have tought the problems with IBOX was primarily obsoleted interface and old redundant pieces in the software, not the screen layout. But of course its quite a bit of work maintaining different layouts on an increasing number of different resolutions..

Edited by - bo. on 10/03/2011 15:24:24
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cyclone
Pulcino

Ukraine
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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  16:45:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I was opposed to removing IBOX. But now on my 7 "PNA's all very well. If this interferes with further development, it should be discarded. We have friends who ask LK8000 on Android, and you said that without IBOX easier to migrate to other platforms.
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Coolwind
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Italy
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Posted - 10/03/2011 :  17:27:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Coolwind's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Exactly. We start rewriting the stuff using new user interface, so that instead of doing like Max Kellermann did (2 years of development for an android version which looks like a DOS program, full of bugs, and nobody using) we shall be porting a widely used and accepted software to a platform using the OS innovative functions.

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