From chris_group_mail@dsl.pipex.com Fri Apr 1 01:43:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: max@swift.blarg.de Delivered-To: max@swift.blarg.de Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by swift.blarg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281CB16B56 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 01:43:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.5, SPF_PASS=-1] autolearn=ham Received: from swift.blarg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (swift.blarg.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id aNGmq3QeY4LT for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 01:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.37]) by swift.blarg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2E716202 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 01:42:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Trace: 455679974/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$PIPEX-ACCEPTED/pipex-customers/81.86.114.151/None/chris_group_mail@dsl.pipex.com X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 81.86.114.151 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: chris_group_mail@dsl.pipex.com X-SMTP-AUTH: aouc60@dsl.pipex.com X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAD8QlU1RVnKX/2dsb2JhbAAM5yCFawSLb4RrhUs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,279,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="455679974" X-IP-Direction: OUT Received: from 81-86-114-151.dsl.pipex.com (HELO [192.168.0.2]) ([81.86.114.151]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2011 00:42:47 +0100 Message-ID: <4D951177.1010204@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:42:47 +0100 From: Chris Rowland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Wharington , Max Kellermann CC: xcsoar-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-devel] XCSoar validation in Gpsdump References: <20110331132052.GA8853@mail.blarg.de> <4D94ED2B.2080503@dsl.pipex.com> <20110331212145.GA1065@mail.blarg.de> <947803277872613963@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <947803277872613963@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 2473 Lines: 61 I intended to join in the development of XCSoar and, as an experienced developer, could have been useful but the actions of the inner circle of this group and their abuse of the GPL to try to force software that other people have developed off the net caused me to decide not to do so. I will not be a party to the evil that I think that you are doing. I don't need to look at other people's posts to form this opinion. I only need to look at your actions and posts. And I am NOT a customer of yours. I have never loaded any of your software. I've decided to avoid GPL software. I won't even look at the source code. You have given me nothing. You have taken a lot of development resource from this project, some of it mine. On 31/03/2011 22:41, John Wharington wrote: > Hi Chris, > > The great thing about us being open source zealots is that we have no > financial incentive to be nice to rude customers. > > It is very different from our perspective, those of us dedicated to > our work, and it bemuses me that outsiders like you try to stir up > politics. > > We give you things for free. +karma to us. What are *you* doing? > > > On 01/04/2011, at 8:21 AM, Max Kellermann wrote: > >> On 2011/03/31 23:07, Chris Rowland wrote: >>> I don't think that GpsDump will happen for XCSoar - and maybe not at >>> all. I wouldn't develop it with Kellerman's attitude that any use >>> of code that he disapproves of is theft and his aggressive use of >>> his interpretation of the GPL to try to enforce this. >>> >>> His whole attitude that this is "offending code" makes this far too >>> risky. >> >> Hey Chris, long time no see. >> >> Last thing you wrote to me was "You disgust me." (2009/09/15) >> >> You called us (specifically Scott, Johnny and me) "a load of arrogant, >> intolerant, open source zealots". Looks like we still are, two years >> later. Some things never change, and neither did you. >> >> Max >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; >> WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and >> publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf >> _______________________________________________ >> Xcsoar-devel mailing list >> Xcsoar-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xcsoar-devel >